Podcast Logo


Posted on June 11th, 2021 by Clyde Lewis


Sometimes it is a disadvantage to know a few things about the occult and symbolism. You no longer can watch a movie, or a music video without feeling or sensing that the symbolism involved is not somehow tied to some ancient magic that is proven to be powerful.

Symbolism as we well know is powerful and symbols are empowered as sigils or talisman that can create feelings and attitudes.

In the book, Simulacra and Simulation, by Jean Baudrillard symbols shape reality and even though many do not know the meaning of the symbols many of them do resonate with us for some reason and our minds are drawn to them. Certain colors stimulate sexual feelings; certain sounds can be triggers that bring back memories, smells, even enjoyable of even tragic moments in our lives.

Symbolism can either reveal certain truths, or it can obscure of hide real intent and purpose. The question is why are the symbols being used, are they part of a greater ritual and what is the purpose of the ritualism and simulation? Will it make an imprint on the people who witness it? Is it coincidence or intentional?

These questions need to be asked every time and image shows up on the paranormal radar screen. I always see these interesting images and while occult imagery is always attributed to some Satanic or Illuminated conspiracy, the idea of such imagery needs to be examined and looked upon with curiosity and intrigue rather than just limited to an intentional Satanic brainwashing.

Like it or not symbolism always affects our decisions and our subconscious. Those who have studied deep occult symbolism will know that sacred geometry and other factors are responsible for choice and enticement.

You see it in religion, you see it in politics, you see it in the music industry. It cannot be avoided and you can decide if it is manipulation, or full of some sort of evil intent.

There is the metaphor that is not lost on some of you and the Twilight Language that has been used not only by me but by the media. Twilight Language is the language of symbols numbers and hints that point to a supernatural or paranormal explanation as to why strange things happen in the world. Many of you who know me, understand that I see the world in patterns. I am a person who often detects symbolic language, actions, and the number that renders the mind waiting for a kind of synchronicity to unfold.

When you share this type of thinking with people, they are not always receptive and tend to think that you are prone to magical thinking.

I can assure you that it is not magical thinking – it is merely pattern seeking and acknowledging that a lot of coincidence is meaningful and that it can be the result of calling upon a confidence trickster.

Now, what I am about to share with you is a goofy bit of synchronicity but it certainly is an interesting observation to say the least. My stepson Liam and I have been watching a list of movies that have been rated by the internet movie database. He thought it was a great idea to watch these films undefined many of them came out before he was born and so he wanted to get a glimpse of all of the movies that came before him and enjoy some of his favorites that are on the list.

I see it as a binding moment since I love movies and I love to see his reaction to films I saw when I was growing up. However, there is a disadvantage to all of it and that is we are buying more snacks now undefined then ever before.

It is like we have to buy popcorn and candy so that we can have that movie theater atmosphere. One thing that Liam wanted on our list of snacks was OREOs.

I said to him that I would like to avoid OREOs because they become addictive and while I donundefinedt necessarily go out of my way to eat things like that undefined when I do I end up eating a lot of them.

But he insisted and so I included OREO cookies on our snack list.

One weekend we looked at the movie list and noticed that we would be watching the Lord Of the Rings series. As we were watching Liam had noticed some of the symbols on the shields of the knights and said to me out of the blue undefined have you ever noticed how an OREO cookie has these same symbols? He showed me that the cookie had these different designs -and I began to take notice because he was right undefined there were some occult symbols on the cookie, and I thought off handedly no wonder people are addicted to them undefined they have magic symbols on them.

It was a moment where I thought undefined why havenundefinedt I noticed this and I figured mainly it is because I avoid eating OREOs because they donundefinedt help my weight situation.

So I thought that it was an interesting little tidbit of information and while I am sure many would think that I would be contemplating that there is a huge masonic conspiracy connection to the cookie, I just kind of shrugged it off.

But I thought that it would be fun to bring it up on our after show called On Beyond Zero. We discussed the strangeness for a short time had a good laugh and that was it -no conspiracy theory, just a moment of discussing the symbolism.

Then something happened where synchronicity reared its head. I got a press release in my email that said that Nabisco was going to change their packaging for the OREO Double Stuf cookie and call it undefinedThe Offering.undefined

I thought undefined that is weird undefined why did I get the press release and why are they calling the OREO Double Stuf cookie undefinedThe Offering?undefined

It is a marketing stunt where Nabisco announced that they are giving an offering of Double Stuf OREOs as a welcome gift to any UFOs that arrive here on Earth. According to the folks at OREO, the mission is to bring all life forms together by sharing to world’s favorite cookies.

#OREOOFFERING started trending on Twitter. A tweet went out saying THIS IS NOT A DRILL They made their visit and took the #OREOOffering! Mission “Bring-All-Lifeforms-Together” complete.

I was then having a Mandela Effect moment undefined the cookie was the Double Stuf Oreo undefined I remember that double stuff was spelled with two undefinedFundefinedSundefined not one but there it was Stuf with one F.. I immediately thought okay, this has to be investigated.

I asked my wife and she said she always thought it was Double Stuf OREOs instead of double stuff and she remembers two Fs and not one.Double Stuff Oreos 15.35oz - 2 packs: Amazon.com: Grocery & Gourmet Food

As far as Iundefinedm aware, there is no unedited photographic proof of them ever being called Double Stuffed despite that being what lots of people remember it being and what everyone refers to them as.

Okay, so I now had to find out more .

The pattern on the OREO cookie that we eat today has been around since 1952.

The circle with the word “OREO” has a cross with a two-bars on it; this is known as the Cross of Lorraine which was carried by the Knights Templar into the Crusades. The Cross of Lorraine is part of the heraldic arms of Lorraine in eastern France. Between 1871 and 1918 and again between 1940 and 1944, the northern third of Lorraine was annexed to Germany, along with Alsace. There are also exactly 12 Templar Cross Pattees in a circle, with also 12 dots and 12 dashes.

Charles Peguy the famous poet wrote about the cross and its symbolism:

“The arms of Jesus are the Cross of Lorraine,

Both the blood in the artery and the blood in the vein,

Both the source of grace and the clear fountaine;

The arms of Satan are the Cross of Lorraine,

And the same artery and the same vein,

And the same blood and the troubled fountaine.”

Some occult scholars believe that the Cross of Lorriane represents the messianic promise of a great leader with both the blood of Christ and the blood of Satan flowing through him - the symbol of a Luciferian Antichrist.

It is also known as the Double Cross.

The etymology of the word OREO gives us two words. Or and Eo. The Hebrew meaning of the word Or is light, and it can also mean dawn, daylight, early morning, lightning, star, sun, sunlight, and sunshine. The word Eo has a similar meaning from the Greek word ēōs, meaning dawn.

In the scriptures, we can then find a reference to fallen angels who are called the watchers, the Greek word for watchers egrḗgoroi or egrgeorio. the word translated means awakened or aware. This Greek word for “Watchers” originates in Daniel 4 where they are mentioned twice in the singular once in the plural.

The Book of Enoch there were reports of “The Watchers” or the Grigori, an Extraterrestrial race that gave knowledge to primitive man and mated with the women in order to propagate a hybrid species. These beings were also known as the Nephilim.

If the OREO is the offering to the aliens undefined they couldnundefinedt have picked a better cookie.

Oro is the Spanish word for gold and in French Gold is called Or. Ordo is Latin for Order.

Rosicrucianism or the Order of the Rosy Cross is a spiritual and cultural movement that arose in Europe in the early 17th century after the publication of several texts that purported to announce the existence of a hitherto unknown esoteric order to the world and made seeking its knowledge attractive to many.


The mysterious doctrine of the order is undefinedbuilt on esoteric truths of the ancient pastundefined, which undefinedconcealed from the average man, provide insight into nature, the physical universe, and the spiritual realm, The manifestos do not elaborate extensively on the matter, but clearly combine references to Kabbalah, Hermeticism, alchemy, and Christian mysticism.

Now, if you do a search on the Rosicrucian symbolism of the OREO cookie you get a number of websites that say undefined there is no truth to the rumors that the cookies have any strange symbolism at all but for some reason my search triggered an algorithm that sent me ads on different websites to join the Rosicrucian order -and the entire site was peppered with all of the symbolism that is seen on the OREO cookie.


This motivated me to dig even deeper as the origins of how the OREO came to have this symbology printed on it.

The OREO wasn’t the only snack Nabisco introduced in 1912. The company also produced Veronese biscuits and Mother Goose cookies; the latter embossed with characters from popular nursery rhymes. it had become common to create cookie molds that could imprint a distinctive shape on top of the crunchy wafers. Itundefineds a practice that likely has origins in Europe, where producers of communion wafers used molds to create edible religious symbols.

So like the offering of a communion wafer with symbolism, the OREO made its mark in the early 20th century.

It was in their best interests to create distinctive patterns that helped consumers distinguish one product from another. Nabisco’s Lorna Doone cookies had a vaguely atomic symbol along with the cookie’s name

In 1924, Nabisco made a slight alteration to the Oreo, adding turtle doves on either end of the cookie’s name and enlarging the font. It remained unchanged for nearly 30 years, until 1952, when a former Nabisco mail room employee named William Turnier was tasked with building a better cookie.The story of William A. Turnier, the man who designed the Oreo cookie - INDY Week

Turnier had arrived at the company in 1923, running correspondence for executives before he befriended workers on the food engineering side of their headquarters in New York City. At night, he pursued his GED: Turnier had dropped out of school over bullying he had experienced as a result of being afflicted with polio.

It’s not known what direction, if any, Turnier was given when it was time to give the OREO a facelift. The only thing he kept was the cookie’s name in the center. In place of the wreaths, Turnier positioned an array of four-petal flowers. Surrounding the word “Oreo” was a colophon, or emblem, that was a circle with two crossed lines at the top. It was the same design Nabisco had been using to adorn its company logo.

Turnier claimed that design goes back to monks who used it on the bottom of manuscripts they copied in Medieval times.

It was unlikely he had any awareness that his design for the OREO would become a kind of Rorschach test for snack lovers, with people finding subversive messages in the way he illustrated the cookie.

The symbolism was not only used by monks but it also was a symbol that the Knights Templar carried into the Crusades in the 12th century. And contrary to those who wish to debunk any and all theories about occult symbolism all of the symbols on the cookie could be a subtle nod to the Freemasons.



Nabisco has never offered an official explanation for the design. They do not: in fact, fully acknowledge Turnier had anything to do with it, insisting that their records don’t account for who was responsible for the cookie’s alteration in 1952—only that Turnier worked as a design engineer during that period of time.

So it appears that Nabisco wishes to keep the symbolism mysterious.

In adding to the mystery Nabisco now wants to make itundefineds Double Stuf OREO an offering to the aliensundefined which is also interesting when you consider that in medieval times putting cookies on the table or near your bed was an offering to keep evil entities and witches away.

In some traditions fruit and wine was always set aside as an offering in homes plagued with evil spirits -eventually cookies were offered.

Cookies were also offered to keep the darkness away, In ancient times it was feared that the children would be eaten by the god Saturn and so a child was often sacrificed.. later cookies made in the shape of children were offered to keep away the darkness.

In fact, the tradition of giving candy away to little goblins and demons at Halloween comes from this tradition as does leaving cookies out for Santa as his origins were not wholesome but more demonic as children feared the arrival of Krampus.

Special cookies have also been a part of undefinedspirit cookingundefined a practice that was associated with occultists like Aleister Crowley.

Recently spirit cooking became a major issue when Marina Abramović a well-known occult artist, sent e-mails to John Podesta who inviting him to be part of her occult soiree.Spirit Cooking with Marina Abramović: The First Cut Is the Deepest

In a leaked email between John Podesta, and his brother Tony Podesta, an invitation from Abramović is forwarded. It reads: “I am so looking forward to the Spirit Cooking dinner at my place. Do you think you will be able to let me know if your brother is joining?”

The act of spirit cooking involves Abramović using blood, semen and other bodily fluids in what can be called Cakes of Light or cookies that serves as a Eucharist of sorts. It is a way of connecting with the spiritual world, to cook up thoughts. In a video, she is featured writing various statements with blood, such as “with a sharp knife cut deeply into your middle finger eat the pain”.

Since then, conspiracy theorists and world-renowned journalists alike have been looking into the topic of occult ritual and Satanic pedophiles and speculating how big this problem could be and who could be involved within these underground rings.

Perhaps the act of eating a spirit cookie was the very thing that triggered the whole conspiracy of blood libel among the elites.

To be clear - no one is saying that OREO cookies are Satanic or even connected to Satanismundefined the symbolism of making it an offering to aliens is synchronistic and fascinating.

It opens a mystic rabbit hole, from Mandela Effect to occult symbolism that may or may not be connected to the idea that the cookie itself is addictive and the number one best selling cookie in the United states.

Almost 500 billion have been sold. In fact, if you were to stretch out all the OREOs ever sold, you could circle the globe with OREO cookies 341 times. But did any of these billions of people ever notice the hidden Knights Templar symbology etched into a Oreo cookie as they dipped their OREO’s in milk; or licked off the white creamy filling from the Cross Pattee double crossed emblazoned cookies?

Probably not undefined but on a deeper level, and unconscious level we are responding to the ancient symbolism and sacred geometry.

The key to the mind is through the skull and the geometric truths that unlock the technological signatures that extend beyond the dimensions.

In many respects, religion is closer to an art than a science, just as something is “true” in art if it resonates with something deep within us or is reflective of our emotional intuition of the way we experience the world.

Confucius once said that “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.”

To understand the world we live in, we must understand the symbols surrounding us. To understand these symbols, we must dig up their origin, which is often deeply hidden in occult mysteries.

It doesn’t make them good or bad – what matters is how we respond to them and how our subconscious responds to symbolism.

The idea of a cookie being more than the sum of its parts may be a ridiculous idea – one that will certainly create a few snickers in the background but it also leads to some very interesting conversation.

At least it is a more of an intellectual conversation than that of arguing whether or not you eat the middle of an OREO first or consuming the whole thing or the whole package with a glass of milk.

I guess we will have to wait and see how the aliens do it.